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Major Loss Fire

Update, 10 am Pacific:  Fire is out, scroll down.

A THREE-ALARM FIRE IS WORKING IN EL MONTE, California, this morning in the Mountain View high school.  The fire that was discovered and dispatched around 2:30 am Pacific appears to have started in the cafeteria area of the multi-building campus and then got above the ceiling into the roof void where it has been spreading through the entire building.

KTLA-TV has posted some good, early video taken from their helicopter HERE.

KTLA-TV is also reporting:

The large 200-foot by 200-foot building also houses a maintenance shop and student store.

Firefighters began with an aggressive interior attack, but had to pull back into defensive mode due to a partial building collapse.

There were six ladder trucks and about 150 firefighters at the scene.  Crews were working to keep the flames from spreading to any other buildings. The cafeteria building appeared to be a total loss.

So far there is no indication of what started the fire.  This is still a working incident and no further information is available.

Update, 10 am Pacific: 
The fire is now out and was contained to the original fire building.  The Los Angeles Times reports:

Dispatchers received multiple 911 calls about the blaze at about 2:30 a.m., said Tony Imbrenda, a spokesman for the Los Angeles County Fire Department. The first firefighters to arrive at the school reported "heavy smoke and fire" and called for a second alarm, he said.

Dangerous conditions inside the building, including collapsing facade and roof material, forced firefighters to withdraw and take a defensive approach, Imbrenda said. The third alarm was called in about 3:15 a.m., bringing the total number of personnel fighting the blaze to 150.

"It was a big fire," Imbrenda said, noting some flames exceeded 75 feet in height.

The fire was knocked down just after 6:30 a.m., Imbrenda said. A bulldozer was brought in to pull down burning embers, and crews remained on scene hours later to continue cleanup efforts.

 

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City of Pomona eliminates a fire station

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The value of public records

Code2high.com is a website that provides a comprehensive photo collection of police cars, fire apparatus, unique vehicles, frequencies, and general information for numerous emergency service agencies in Los Angeles County.

It also dives into the details of public safety operations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pomona Fire Station 181 closes

Last night Code2high.com posted a link to 24 pages of public documents related to the September closing of one of the eight fire stations that serve the city. 

Pomona City is one of 58 cities that contracts with Los Angeles County for paramedic squads and fire suppression services. Pomona is Battalion 15 within the county fire department.

Reducing a $3.7 million gap in FY 2014 Budget

The city council voted on a budget that significantly reduced library services and eliminated one engine company through closure of Station 181.

Monica Rodriguez, in a June 16 Inland Valley Daily Bulletin article outlines the issues: Pomona council to consider closing library, cutting fire services to balance budget

The executive summary of an August 6 memo from Deputy City Manager Mark Gluba to the mayor and city council describes the situation:

Over the past several years the City of Pomona has faced drastic fiscal and operational challenges due to the loss of significant revenues with all City departments ,as well as the L.A. County Fire Department, requested to identify potential budget saving measures for consideration.

As a result the City has negotiated savings in excess of 12% across all labor groups and eliminated over 240 staff positions. The City requested that Los Angeles County Fire Chief Daryl Osby (and his predecessor P. Michael Freeman) provide recommendations to effectuate a significant reduction to Pomona Fire Services Contract.

The realignment recommended herein, is based on a Fire District proposal following negotiations with staff to effectuate necessary savings to the City, while mitigating negative fire service impacts from closing a station.

Proposed Fire Cost and Service Reductions to City Fire Services Contract

Moving rigs and expanding Fire Station 182

Last month the city started these activities

  • Close Fire Station 181: Engine 181, Truck 181 (a tiller-quint) and Battalion 15
  • Temporarily relocate Light Force 181 (Engine 181 and Truck 181) to Station 185
  • Temporarily remove Engine 185 from service and eliminating all associated personnel and overhead costs
  • Develop a station construction plan for expansion of Station 182, City purchased adjacent parcel of land.
  • Relocate paramedic squads to Station 183 and 184

Calwatch, blogging in M-M-M-My Pomona provides the background of Pomona fire services, stretching before the county contract started in 1994: Looking at fire – the last place to cut. Calwatch notes that the 1994 city council decision was fiscal: "At the time the city would have saved $2 million out of its $14 million budget."

Temporarily closing Engine 185, a three person fire company, in FY 2014 represents a $2.5 million saving and elimination of nine positions.

When Station 182 is expanded:

  • Relocate Truck 181 to Station 182 creating a station equipped with a 4 person truck. 3 person engine, 2 person paramedic squad and Battalion Chief 15.
  • Disband Engine 181, a two person light force engine.
  • Restore Engine 185, a three person engine.
  • Return Paramedic Squads to Station 182 and 185

The permanent closure of the two person Engine 181, which operated as the pumper in a light force company, will save the city $1.5 million and eliminate six positions.

You can go here to read all of the city documents.

A Los Angeles County Light Force is a four person truck company and a two person engine company.

Light Force 181 responding in 2009:

Mike "FossilMedic" Ward

Updated: Shopping Mall Fire Working in Los Angeles County

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2 Alarms and Holding

Update, 10:30 am Pacific:  More information and video added.  Scroll down.

LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS are on the scene of a 2-alarm fire in a Palmdale shopping mall this morning.  The fire was discovered around 4 am Pacific and is initially believed to have started in a men's clothing store.

KTLA-TV

Apparently the Fire Command became concerned about the roof or the truss viability because all the firefighters were pulled out of the building after a while and only outside streams are in service.  Reports from the scene mention that it seems to have been brought under control around 5:45 am, but that is not official.  There are approximately 150 firefighters on the job.

This is still a working fire and no other information is available yet.  We should be getting some helicopter video before long and it will be added when we do.  KTLA-TV has this early REPORT.

Update, 10:30 am Pacific:

KCBS-TV has filed this video report:

 

The fire is knocked down, but most of the units are still on the scene working the hot spots.  Reports are now saying the the fire that gutted the clothing store extended into a warehouse to the rear which provided the bulk of the fire load.  It is not clear what was inside the warehouse or who it belongs to.  This is still a working incident.

KTLA-TV is saying:

No one was inside the building when the fire broke out and there were no reports of any injuries.

Arson investigators were at the scene. They were waiting until the building was stable before going inside. "The building was fully involved and the roof had already caved in, so the investigation will be tough," L.A. County Fire Dept. Insp. Bill Riley said.

The store's owner, who did not want to go on camera, said he was completely devastated. He said the store had been open about two weeks, and their grand opening was planned for this weekend.

KABC-TV

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UPDATED: Bel Air brush fire funds LA County expansion

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A Budget War Story from 1961

Many initiatives get funded in the wake of a disaster or tragedy. Some become the fabric of the fire service story. Listening to local politicians reacting to the weekend wind-driven fires reminded me of this story.

The November 6 – 7, 1961, Bel Air/Brentwood brush fire remains one of the largest losses in Los Angeles County. (see map HERE)  While battling that blaze, with 60 mph winds, a second major fire started at Santa Ynes on November 7.

Combined, the fires consumed 16,090 acres, 493 homes and 190 outbuildings – $30 million loss. 200 firefighters injured.  L A County reported that 78% of the endangered homes were protected. (Flashback: The Bel-Air/Brentwood Fire)

Only the Los Angeles/Orange county Sylmar fire on November 15, 2008, was worst, losing 6,500 acres and 600 mobile homes.  (LA Times comparison)

James O. Page provided this example of disaster-based budgeting :

On the first night of the Bel Air Fire (November ’61) I was driving Chief Victor Petroff and we were on the move all night long. Several times during the night we met on dusty fire roads with Chief Klinger and his driver. Throughout the night we could hear the boss on the radio, seeking updated information, arranging for meetings with other chiefs, inquiring about the welfare of personnel, and scolding food dispenser operators to “get over there and take care of those guys.” He was 50 years old at the time but he didn’t slow down or sneak off for a nap all night long.

The rest of the story was told to me by Kenny Hahn in 1977. According to Kenny, the Board of Supervisors was having its regular Tuesday morning meeting. “All of a sudden,” Hahn said, “the wooden doors at the back of the meeting room swung open, and through them marched Chief Klinger. He was covered with soot and dust and I swear he must have had a fireman out in the lobby with a bellows full of smoke, puffing it through the doorway after the chief.”

“He marched down that aisle like he’d just bought the Hall of Administration,” Supervisor Hahn continued. “He wasn’t on the agenda but he walked right up to the podium and took over the meeting.”

“What could we do?” Hahn asked rhetorically. “It seemed like the whole county was on fire and the fire chief wanted to talk to us. Keith Klinger knew how and when to get attention.”

“I noticed he had a folder in his hand,” Kenny Hahn remembered. He then recalled how our chief gave the Board a blow-by-blow report on the battles that were underway in the mountains between Sepulveda Pass and Topanga.

Then, Hahn recalled with a grin, Chief Klinger pulled from the folder a ten-year plan for improvement of fire protection in LA County. Again, he asked, “What could we do but vote yes on it?”

The Board of Supervisors adopted Chief Klinger’s ten-year plan and provided the money for it, thus the fleet of brush rigs to be known as ’400′ engines, as well as several new stations. Obviously, Chief Klinger had the plan developed long before the Bel Air Fire and was just waiting for the best time to spring it on the Board of Supervisors.

source:  oral history collected by the Los Angeles County Fire Museum

Can We Do The Same Thing Today?

Three northern Virginia fire chiefs have performed a similar response in the past decade:

Arlington County Fire Chief Ed Plaugher was ready when his Board of Supervisors asked the "what we can do?" question in the aftermath of the 2001 Pentagon attack. Resulted in four-person staffing for all fire suppression companies.

Alexandria Fire Chief Adam Thiel pushed to increase truck company staffing from three to four and to staff a heavy rescue company in the aftermath of a 2007 high rise fire called "catastrophic" by Virginia OSHA. More than three employees were hospitalized overnight, one was in intensive care for days. It was a three alarm fire in an unsprinklered 18 story highrise at the height of a violent thunderstorm. Three hundred occupants, 4 civilian and 6 firefighter injuries. (After action report HERE)

Prince William County Fire Chief Kevin McGee was required by his board to zero-out any additional career positions in his Fiscal Year 2007 and 2008 submissions. In the aftermath of the line of duty death of Technician Kyle Wilson,  McGee propoosed a five year plan to get to four person minimum staffing on 21 engine companies and establishing 24 hour career battalion chief coverage.

None of them got everything they asked for.  Wonder what our Maryland colleagues will do with their opportunity?

Weekend casualty in Prince George's County: Baden VFD old Brush 36 – overrun by fire

 

Picture from CJ-5 Fire Service Jeeps.
They also covered the 2008 fire over-run of Baden's 1978 Jeep CJ-5 65gpm/75gwt, BX 36 (HERE)

Baden aquired a replacement for BX 36 in 2010 with a 2009 Ford F350/DPC brush rig (100 gpm/150 gwt).
Details HERE

  

 from FireAppPhoto40

Mike "FossilMedic" Ward

9/11 Tribute Float at Rose Bowl parade

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Captain Schmoe, Report on Conditions, alerts us to the first of many 10th year tributes, reflections, or events commemorating our loss.

Rose Parade Rememberance

Happy New Year everybody. It’s 0800 local and I am getting ready to watch the 2011 Tournament of Roses parade. Kind of sissy I know, but I like to get up early on New Years day and watch it. This year, there is a unique float in the parade, one that I felt worth posting about.

This is the artists conception of a float honoring the fallen in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The effort was spearheaded by Jerry Thomsen, a Los Angeles County firefighter who responded to the WTC disaster in New York.

Go to Captain Schmoe’s website, Report on Conditions, to see a picture of the float from today’s parade (HERE)

2011 Rose Parade Tribute Float website (HERE)

Mike “FossilMedic” Ward

Sweatshirt Warehouse Burns

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A 3-ALARM FIRE IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY was first discovered at 7:45 pm local time Friday night in South El Monte, California.  The fire was in a large warehouse that was unoccupied at the time by a worker in a neighboring building.

The large warehouse is used as a garment distribution center and the fire was being fed by “heavy fuel” in the form of huge stacks of sweatshirts, which have a long burn time and pose the risk of reigniting even after containment, Capt. Frank Reynoso told the Los Angeles Times.

KTLA-TV filed this video report from the fire scene:

  

The fire department says that the building is a total loss.  It is too early to determine the cause, but the plant had been closed since Wednesday for the Thanksgiving Day weekend and nobody was known to be inside.

Forestry Firefighter Transport Crashes, 2 Dead and 12 Injured.

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A LOS ANGELES COUNTY FORESTRY FIREFIGHTER TRANSPORT VAN crashed head-on with a passenger vehicle in the northern part of Los Angeles County near Gorman on Tuesday afternoon.  The accident left two people dead and 12 injured, five of them in critical condition.  The firefighters are one of the state’s prison inmate forestry crews.

photos via KCOP-TV

The transporter was carrying 12 inmate-firefighters and was being driven by a county firefighter when a sedan coming the opposite direction on the road crossed over the center line and collided head-on with the truck.  The impact caused the transporter to begin rolling over for about 150 feet, ejecting the imates along the way.  One of the inmates and the driver of the auto were killed instantly.  Many others were trapped inside the wreckage of the truck and had to be extricated.  The injured were transported to several trauma centers in the county.

KGET-TV Ch. 17 Bakersfield has a video report that includes aerial footage of the scene:

 

KTLA-TV has more details and another video REPORT HERE.
The Los Angeles Times has MORE.

Sue-Happy Landlord Threatens Fire Victim

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LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS were dispatched to a working house fire Saturday morning in Malibu where they found a beach-front cottage well involved.  They had the fire knocked down quickly and extinguished in 10 minutes.

KTLA-TV

It turns out that the house was occupied by television personality Ricki Lake who was renting the home.  The fire started when she was attempting to fuel a portable heater inside the home and it accidentally ignited.  She got her two sons ages 9 and 13 safely out of the house and called the fire department.  The FD classed the incident as “accidental” and wrapped up.

According to a La-La-Land gossip site, Radar Online, within hours the distraught homeowners are already threatening to sue Miss Lake for her accident:

“The family doesn’t understand why Rikki apparently made no attempt to put out the fire,” a source tells RadarOnline.com.  “She decided to move her cars, take her family and pets out, and even bring out boxes of clothes as she watched the fire burn the house to the ground.

“This has really torn the family apart.  They feel that Rikki was negligent in trying to refill an outdoor heater indoors, and in making no attempt to put out the flames before it got out of control.  They are talking to their lawyers about suing.”

Rotsa Ruck with that one, folks.  To claim that she should fight the fire instead of waking up her children and getting them safely out of the house is ludicrous.  Secondly, nobody said that she didn’t try to put out the flames, or even that she is qualified to do so.  Anyway, there’s no such thing as an “outdoor heater.”  Everybody knows that only the sun can heat the outdoors.  Call your insurance agent.

KTLA-TV filed this video report on the fire:
 

Firegeezer explains:  I am unable to provide the link to the Radar Online site because it attempts to download unsafe data to your computer.