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Donna firegeezer on 27 May 2008
Bye-Bye Donna !
ONE LESS HOUSE SIREN IN SELIGMAN, ARIZONA, this week. Frederick Cross, aka: Donna Clark, the self-appointed fire chief of the one-weirdo Bridge Canyon Volunteer Fire Department, has packed his trunks and left town. Uncle Charlie quit his janitor’s job at the general store and apparently left with him.
The struggling FD known for having the world’s largest engine bay - as big as the whole outdoors - is no more.
Freddie sold off most of his vehicles. The local scrap dealer got the water tanker at a great price. The 1964 Boardman pumper is currently up for sale on eBay. Scroll down to the next posting for the complete details of this great offer. He hasn’t come up for trial yet, so we don’t know if he’s gone on the lam, or just liquidating his ill-gotten assets before an expected trip up to the Big House in Phoenix.
Attention newer readers: If you’re not up to speed on who funny Freddie is, go over to the Categories list on the right sidebar and click on “Donna.” Scroll back the to bottom of page 2 and then read forward. It’s worth the trip, believe me.
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He’s usually dressed in women’s clothing and likes to talk Fire Department talk. Lately he’s been seen riding on the passenger’s side of the camper because the Sheriff took away his phony driver’s license. Wherever he pops up he will likely be peddling off some FD hand tools, equipment or running gear that he’s scammed off of some unwitting donors.
His full name is Frederick Renan Cross. D.O.B. Aug. 10, 1966.
He often uses a different name, perhaps because of his criminal past, and most recently went under the alias of Donna Clark.
Other aliases he has used are: Donna White; Donna Dorothy Clark; Donna R. Clark; Don Clark; M. Mann; Michelle Denise; Donna Fredericks; Meg Young, Attorney.
If you see him/her, or hear of any activities that suggest his presence, please let Firegeezer know right away.
Now scroll down to the next posting and see how you can get a piece of fire department history for your very own by purchasing the infamous BCVFD pumper.
Donna firegeezer on 27 May 2008
Donna’s Pumper Parked At eBay
YES, AS PART OF THE BCVFD LIQUIDATION, Fire Chief Donna has his/her 1967 Boardman pumper up for sale on eBay (HERE).
Now you can own a piece of history for only $3,500 (or more).
Donna may be gone from town, but his accomplice is handling the sale of his favorite pumper.
The seller’s nom de plume is Javidad1 with a “12″ feedback rating. If you look up his feedbacks you will find that most of them are from only two people who are both no longer registered with eBay.
The closing date of this sale is tomorrow, Wednesday May 28, shortly after 10 pm Pacific time.
The vehicle description is really pushing the limits of credibility here. They are saying that the vehicle is in “excellent” condition and that “everything such as hoses ….. are in mint condition.” It’s going to be hard to prove that fire hose that has been sitting outside for years in the desert sun is in mint condition. Not mentioned is if the dozen sets of new running gear that he conned out of a donor is included.
If you have any questions, they give you a phone number: (928) 699-8185 where you can ask “Bud.” For example, you might want to know when the pump had its last test and certification. Or what the pump capacity is and how much water the booster tank holds. Give Bud a call and let us know these answers. Inquiring minds want to know. The phone number is listed to a cell phone that was issued in Flagstaff, Arizona.
If you’re the winning bidder, you need to send your 10% deposit to damkrtchyan@yahoo.com. Full payment is required in 7 days and you have to pick up the pumper. It’s location is never disclosed other than it is somewhere in Arizona. But at the top of the listing, the item is registered as being located in Glendale, California. Ever the con man.
Maybe Bud can tell you where it is when you call for information.
Make sure you scroll down to the thumbnails and view the nine photos that they have put up for our informative amusement.
For instance: Look at this!
Have you ever seen a firetruck with a necker’s knob on the steering wheel?
“We don’t need no two hands to drive a fire engine”
Just CLICK HERE to visit the eBay selling page. Remember, the auction closes Wednesday night shortly after 10 pm Pacific time.
Donna firegeezer on 12 Jan 2008
The Weekly Donna - 1/12
The continuing saga of Donna and his magic fire truck. All previous posts are archived in the “Donna” category.
THE HOLIDAY HIATUS IS OVER and our Donna reports resume. Today we will look at the fantasy fire department’s firehouse.
This lead paragraph from the BCVFD recruiting poster that was delivered around the neighborhood invites prospective volunteers to “come to a training meeting” at the firehouse.
What kind of a firehouse does a make-believe fire department with no firefighters have? Well, more or less, this is it:
It’s mostly used for storage. However, it looks like they might have a day room in there with that satellite tv dish. That will encourage the volunteers to hang around some more, especially on Super Bowl Sunday.
Here’s a view of the rear apron:
You can get a view of that nice antenna tower that some well-meaning, but naive, person donated to the BCVFD.
As we have noted previously, the engine bay is sumptuous and has plenty of room for additional apparatus.
We have not yet been able to determine where the hose washing takes place, though.
Donna firegeezer on 21 Dec 2007
The Weekly Donna - 12/21
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The continuing saga of Donna and his magic fire truck. All previous posts are archived in the “Donna” category.
THE YAVAPAI COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY has just released the disposition of Frederick Cross’ (aka Donna Clark) hearing on November 15th. The charges relating to the fictitious license plate, improper registration and no mandatory insurance were dropped in exchange for a guilty plea for disorderly conduct and disturbing a meeting.
There was no mention of the invalid driver’s license, but we can presume it was set aside in lieu of the sheriff’s further investigation and subsequent warrant for felony forgery that was delivered the next day.
As we pointed out HERE, he had his problems with the insurance and registration straightened out by the hearing date. Considering the upcoming felony charges along with the compliance, this appears to be a tolerable outcome. With the disorderly conduct conviction he will be unable to resume his harassment activities without incurring heavier penalties.
Next up will be the pre-trial hearing on the four felonies (reported HERE) which should be sometime in the Spring. It is also noted that the Arizona state crime laboratory still has possession of his computer.
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While Donna was on his romp through the internet forums begging for donations, he was constantly berating the locals for not contributing to his phantom fire department. His descriptions of his neighbors were not kind:
I started this company out of my OWN pocket.I spent my entire enheritance* on THOUGHTS of the Community at least helping on something they literally begged me to do…and FYI…I spent OVER 350,000 dollars on this Company…and I continue to work for a living to keep it on its feet…and NOT for me…BUT FOR THEM!
When I first did this…I had ALL the promises in the world of them helping with funding as well as volunteering and to this day have seen absolutely NONE of what they promised despite what I did or tried to do to GET funding.
* We believe that his father is still living.
(The Seligman FD) do not respond to our area due to the fact that the community is “doghouses”
I have major problems with people that outright lie to me and making promises that never come through.I mean,I can deal with maybe a handful out of the community being asses and not doing what they promised …BUT…the whole freakin community…as a whole???
The community im (living in) is a very “low class society” in which i do not feel comfortable in anymore.

This is the permanent residence of
Frederick Cross and his uncle Charles Clark
Donna firegeezer on 08 Dec 2007
The Daily Donna, 12/8
The continuing saga of Donna and his magic fire truck. All previous posts are archived in the “Donna” category.
When Frederick was first arrested in February for driving his fire truck without insurance or registration and disrupting the peace, he was pressed to identify himself properly. When the deputy ran the driver’s license against the Social Security number through the state computer, it came back as a “no such person.”
Then Frederick said his name was Donna White instead of Donna Clark. It all started falling apart then. Frederick later produced for the deputy a birth certificate showing the name of Donna Clark. Keeping posession of the birth certificate, the Sheriff’s office then began to look under the stones of the Bridge Canyon VFD.
Through the summer while awaiting the first trial (hearing), they continued to research what they could of Frederick’s activities and came up with enough evidence of criminal activity to bring new charges. By then they had determined that the birth certificate was a forgery.
On November 16, the day after Frederick was released from the first set of misdemeanors, the Sheriff went to the court and obtained search warrants for the Clark residence. The warrant also included their personal computer. On that same day the warrant was served, the computer was seized and Frederick Renan Cross III was arrested on four felony counts of forgery and fraud with further charges pending.
He remained in jail until Nov. 21 when he made his bail and returned home to the old camping trailer. Since then he has not been driving at all and keeping pretty much inside to himself. The harassments have ceased and the Seligman FD has run its calls without having to look over their shoulders.
Note: After today, the Daily Donna will become the Weekly Donna. We have given you a fair example of Frederick Cross’ fraudulent activities and exposed his foolishness while posing as a “Fire Chief.” We have much more information and there is still plenty more to come. But it can be best served up on a weekly basis from now on, usually on Fridays.
Thank you for traveling with us down this path to the bizarre world of the magic fire engine with the ghost firefighters.
Donna firegeezer on 07 Dec 2007
The Daily Donna, 12/7
The continuing saga of Donna and his magic fire truck. All previous articles are archived in the Donna category.
Fred was in a spot now. For the first time, the deputies and the community found out his true identity. On top of that, he couldn’t drive his fire truck anymore until he corrected these violations.
His pretrial hearing was set for May 23, so he had to get into gear. First he had his “fire department” incorporated and filed with the State Corporation Commission.
Next he needed license plates. In the strange legal procedures of Arizona, all he had to do was show his corporation papers and the DMV just took him at his word and mailed him a license plate for his rusty fire engine.
Then he had to get insurance. It became effective on May 22, the day before his hearing.
We don’t know where he got the money from, but a million-dollar liability policy doesn’t come too cheap.
When he eventually went to the final hearing on November 15, he only had to answer to the disorderly conduct and the invalid license charges. We haven’t yet found out what his penalty was, but he was able to return home on the 15th.
But the next day, November 16, the hammer fell. Tomorrow we will cover the activities of the following week and the sudden turn in Donna’s dreams.
Donna firegeezer on 06 Dec 2007
The Daily Donna, 12/6
The continuing saga of Donna and his magic fire truck. All previous articles are archived in the Donna category.
Things were getting desperate at the Bridge Canyon VFD. Fred’s sloppy attempts to profit by buying and selling at eBay led to his banishment from the business. His ridiculous tirades and bravado on the fire forums exposed him as a fraud and the only responses he could get from his pathetic calls for more and more donations were ridicule.
By now Donna was feeling boxed in. He had orginally planned to set up his own private fire department and earn a meagre living from the subscriptions and charges that would come rolling in. After spending more than three years accumulating his rag-tag equipment he was shunned by his community and ignored by the authorities who were in charge of dispatching county emergencies.
His behavior became more bizarre. In 2006 he began a harassment campaign against the members of the Seligman FD. Whenever they would respond on a fire call, he would follow along in his rusty fire truck and do everything he could to disrupt the firefighters while they were doing their duty.
But he was always just a hair inside of legal behavior. He wouldn’t get physical or make threats….just noise and later follow it up with wild posters and letters to the citizens of the outlying community. Perhaps he blamed the SFD for his failures, in his twisted logic.
In February 2007 he slipped over that line. While the SFD members were outside on the dept. parking lot holding a drill, Donna came over in his fire truck and started driving around the firehouse, blowing his horn and shouting threats to the FF’s. The harassment breached the peace and they called the sheriff. It should be noted here that by now the deputies had had it up to their ears with this nusiance, too.
When the deputy arrived Fred was still there with his truck. After finding out what all was going on, the deputy charged him with four misdemeanor violations. But there was more to come. Fred was still holding himself out as Donna Clark and presented his driver’s license under that name.
Through normal checking, the deputy soon learned that Donna wasn’t Donna and the she wasn’t a she. A fifth charge was then added for using a bogus license.
Fred didn’t realize it at the time, but his later presentation of a forged birth certificate would lead to his downfall.
Tomorrow we’ll see how he stayed out of jail from this first arrest only to see his problems escalate further.
Donna firegeezer on 05 Dec 2007
The Daily Donna, 12/5
Donna’s days at eBay started getting contentious. He had this strange opinion that he could arbitrarily change the rules of the company to fit his terms at any time. Basically, it was a method to get out from paying for the things he successfully bid on.
Due to some recent events that have taken place by various Sellers on Ebay,Our Funding Board has now proposed and approved a new “buying/bidding” plan for us to go into effect immediately. From now on when we bid and win an Item,we DO NOT make ANY types of payments until we have recieved the item beforehand.
* * * * *i will make this statement ONE FINAL TIME…our policies ARE NOT AGAINST Ebay policies…WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND WILL CONTINUE TO RETAIN THE RIGHT TO OUR POLICY AS LONG AS WE ARE THE BUYERS!
* * * * *and…im NOT A “he”…TYVM
The heat was on. Donna was getting hammered for not paying and his habit of continually saying stupid things on the forums. He got to the point where everything he said was couched in a threat to sue whoever was talking about him.
He posted a lengthy rant on the eBay forum about this. The following are selected excerpts:
Due to some recent events that have been taking place on another website,notifiably some Members on Ebay.com, we have been advised by our Attorneys to relocate our site for security measures until the problems are promptly rectified…
Certain individuals from the Ebay,Inc website,that has obtrusively gathered our private information, without our written consent and without proof or sufficient or supporting evidence,has graciously published our private information as well as slanderous and propostorous information(aka hearsay) on various other websites,thus slandering our Department name.These individuals have made up lies and gossip and has broken just about every Privacy Policy written in lawbooks as well as Ebay,Inc Privacy Policies and we are now in the process of rectifying the situation,and any and all individuals involved, will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Since Ebay,Inc is partially at fault by allowing this to happen and seems to be ignoring our many reports to them to rectify this situation,they may too be held liable in a Court of Law.
We have spoken to the President of Ebay,Inc in hopes he will make the decision on some Ebay Policy changes as well as dealing with people on thier site appropriately. (editor’s note: The president of eBay is a woman, not a “he.” But maybe Donna thinks everybody dresses differently.)
Since this incident happened,we have reported several individuals that have been involved in this,to a Governmental Internet Crimes Division with possible pending charges on the individuals.As more of these individuals “surface”, they too will be added to our report list
It was not long after this that Donna, aka July 36, aka femfirechief, aka July 362 was permanently expelled from doing any business on eBay.
Tomorrow the law starts to catch up with ”Donna.”
Donna firegeezer on 04 Dec 2007
The Daily Donna, 12/4
When last we read Donna’s words of wisdom, he was listing all his experiences (including non-response museum departments) and scholarly achievements.
He dropped those onto the folks at the eBay Sellers forum, too. We’re talking about some web-savvy people here. So when Donna says: My Department Memberships in the past includes The City of Hagerstown,Maryland,The City Of Chambersburg,Maryland,The City of Cumberland,Maryland as well as many other smaller volunteer Departments throughout the East and West Coast.
It was only a matter of hours until everybody had learned that nobody had ever heard of him at Cumberland or the all-paid Hagerstown FD. They also checked many of the surrounding VFD’s with the same result. Of course, there’s no such place as Chambersburg, Maryland. It’s always been in Pennsylvania.
Eventually, Donna’s silliness earned him the eBay nickname of “Fire Liar.” One of the enterprising eBayers even designed a department patch for him:
Meanwhile, back at the fire forums Donna was still dispensing wisdom. This time the subject was helmets. (by then, all those firefighters were onto his/her game) At first the thread was talking about the best way to re-paint a helmet.
One CRITICAL thing Id like to add about painting fire helmets…or ANY helmets for that matter is this….even though some people have no choice but to repaint thier helmets,it is STRONGLY advisable not to do this…simply because MOST paint products are highly combustible and NON fire-retardant.If you must paint your helmet then after you paint it,be sure to spray it done really thorough with a fire retardant…otherwise.
(next day)
ok….so paint your helmets then…just dont expect me to paint mine or none of my guys on my Dept.
I was always taught from way back when NEVER to paint helmets with storebought paints…especially areosols.
other ff’s response: I will keep an open mind here, however I have just one small request. Lead me to an article where JUST ONCE a helmet erupted into flames because it was recently repainted and I will stop thinking you are nuts.Im not here to argue over something as simple as this…I do not go by what may be in articles..but what I have seen during my experiences but as I stated before I will NEVER paint my helmets or my guys will NEVER paint thier helmets as we will buy new first.
I wasnt put into the Chief position for nothing so i must be doing something right so think as you may.
And then the thread began to wander a little bit:
I didnt realize that.I just thought the factory wouldve special treated those before putting them in service(the leather ones I mean).Mine is the leather traditional “New Yorker and painted white but all I do is scrub off the soot and stuff but I guess if I ever need to repaint it..then I will. Also I have an idea regarding helmets…and this is in regards to the black rubber bands for helmets.You can make those(instead of having to buy them) out of peices of bicycle intertubes..and they work very well and stand up to heat since thier actually made of a neoprene combination.We outfitted all of our helmets that way.
response: I think you meant to say truck innnertubes. I can’t see anyone gettin’ a bike tube around a helmet, and even if it was cut lengthwise, well, then you would have to tie it. Unless you have a really, really, large mellon.
Donna: what we did was cut the bike tubes lengthwise…then stapled the ends together but yes..I never thought of the ones from trucks.
You can’t make this stuff up, Folks. Check back tomorrow when Donna gets into the pits with the eBayers.
Donna firegeezer on 03 Dec 2007
The Daily Donna, 12/3
The continuing saga of Donna and his magic fire truck. All previous articles are archived in the Donna category.
We Are Because I Say We Are
Throughout the forum threads, Donna continues to dispense handy tips and profound wisdom:
I carry and use a compass…i carry it in my truck and use it for my IC situations and “placing” my men on scenes(ie,E2 west wall,R4 north wall,etc)and for alot of fireground coordinances and mapping.They come in very handy for that as long as you are not near the actual flames. ….. theres some that know thier east from thier west and thier north from thier south…just by the “feeling”.Mainly I use it for my own coordinances but if its not a major incident(in our eyes) then i just walk around and point to where i want them.
It was about this point that he was not being taken very seriously anymore. In fact, open ridicule is more descriptive of what was going on, putting him on the defensive:
And my “grammar”..is just the way I speak…ever heard of an ACCENT????
Not like that one, no.
Right about this time Frederick discovered the joys of eBay selling and buying. But the buying part was a slow learn for him because he didn’t want to actually pay for the things he bid on. But he was skilled at the game of misrepresentation. He posted this photograph of what he purported to be his valiant firefighters at the Bridge Canyon VFD:
He pointed out that he is the petite woman seen in the center of the front row. A happy bunch of well-equipped firefighters, right?
Maybe so, but they’re not from Seligman. In a small town of 500 there’s no such thing as somebody who isn’t known. Several people in Seligman have studied this picture carefully and they all agree that none of those people have ever been residents of the community. Further, the photo was taken inside a block building as you can see. There are only three block buildings in Seligman and this is definitely not one of them.
But he’s just getting going with his eBay snow job. He also posted his credentials as a super-firewoman:
Department Chief: Donna *****
Fire Service Experience: 17 years
Years of Service in Present Department: 6My Fire Service Career began in my teens during High School as a Junior Member in an all Volunteer Department in the State of West Virginia.
After a few years on that Department(during my training years),I progressed on to Bigger and Paid Departments.I moved from Company to Company throughout my Career for the sole purpose of learning the Fire Department Management Techniques as well as learning the operational ways and ideas of other Departments.I have even been a member of “museum type” non-response Departments for further learning as well.Today,throughout all of my experiences with different Departments,I was able to make it to Chief of this Department.
My Department Memberships in the past includes The City of Hagerstown,Maryland,The City Of Chambersburg,Maryland,The City of Cumberland,Maryland as well as many other smaller volunteer Departments throughout the East and West Coast.My sole Training came from The State of Maryland Fire and Rescue Institute in College Park,Maryland and my training has included,Firefighting 1,2 and 3,Trench Rescue,Automobile Extrications,IC Operations,Fireground Operations,and many others including several Medical oriented Traning Courses.I Have a Degree in the Fire Sciences as well.
Now he has made some verifiable claims. We’ll look at those tomorrow.






















