Comments on: Confrontation at Task Force 1 http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/ The Fire/EMS Digital Dayroom Thu, 24 May 2012 08:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: firehat http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-9325 firehat Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:35:18 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-9325 This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: "I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work." And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand. This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: “I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work.” And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand.

]]> By: firehat http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5770 firehat Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:35:18 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5770 This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: "I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work." And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand. This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: “I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work.” And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand.

]]> By: firehat http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5223 firehat Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:35:18 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5223 This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: "I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work." And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand. This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: “I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work.” And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand.

]]> By: firehat http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5167 firehat Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:35:18 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5167 This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: "I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work." And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand. This is similar to a great line one of my lieutenants used to use on guys who just couldn't get with the program: “I have an endless amount of patience to sit here and watch you work.” And he meant it literally because he's sit in a chair reading the paper while he watched the offender up on a ladder with some Varsol scrubbing all eight bay doors by hand.

]]> By: Mike "FossilMedic" Ward http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5137 Mike "FossilMedic" Ward Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:06:56 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5137 Great post Gerald, I like the "is he a Jerk or Jake" question.<br><br>Mike Great post Gerald, I like the “is he a Jerk or Jake” question.

Mike

]]> By: Mike "FossilMedic" Ward http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5131 Mike "FossilMedic" Ward Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:06:56 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5131 Great post Gerald, I like the "is he a Jerk or Jake" question.<br><br>Mike Great post Gerald, I like the “is he a Jerk or Jake” question.

Mike

]]> By: Mac http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5128 Mac Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:46:00 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5128 Wow, Gerald, well said. Think I'd follow that leadership style any day! Wow, Gerald, well said. Think I'd follow that leadership style any day!

]]> By: Gerald Woodruff http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5123 Gerald Woodruff Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:37:28 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5123 It seems the question that is asked here is whether Captain Allen is a jerk or is he a jake. Leadership which has the by product of commanding respect dictates that the firefighter would show up to roll call and not want to disappoint their Captain. An office can get compliance by being a dictator or a disciplinarian. He commands the respect of the firefighter by leadership skills and motivation. I do not see this as a tit for a tat but an opportunity to win their confidence by leadership skills. What would happen if he noted all of the deficiencies to them asked for a drink of the pop and said, tomorrow we will do better. Tomorrow he could stand at the locker room door and tell the firefighters not to bring the pop or return with clean shoes. There is a break in time in which time should be spent to command and be commanded. Save the discipline for when it matters and always be a leader. It seems the question that is asked here is whether Captain Allen is a jerk or is he a jake. Leadership which has the by product of commanding respect dictates that the firefighter would show up to roll call and not want to disappoint their Captain. An office can get compliance by being a dictator or a disciplinarian. He commands the respect of the firefighter by leadership skills and motivation. I do not see this as a tit for a tat but an opportunity to win their confidence by leadership skills. What would happen if he noted all of the deficiencies to them asked for a drink of the pop and said, tomorrow we will do better. Tomorrow he could stand at the locker room door and tell the firefighters not to bring the pop or return with clean shoes. There is a break in time in which time should be spent to command and be commanded. Save the discipline for when it matters and always be a leader.

]]> By: Mike "FossilMedic" Ward http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5122 Mike "FossilMedic" Ward Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:45:09 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5122 Hi Dave, thanks for posting.<br><br>I think Captain II Allen is about to get some more ink.<br><br>Mike Hi Dave, thanks for posting.

I think Captain II Allen is about to get some more ink.

Mike

]]> By: Mike "FossilMedic" Ward http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/15/tf1-confrontation-part-a/comment-page-1/#comment-5121 Mike "FossilMedic" Ward Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:44:17 +0000 http://firegeezer.com/?p=19223#comment-5121 Thanks for the post.<br><br>What do you think about the junior officer (engine company Captain I) that has said nothing? Thanks for the post.

What do you think about the junior officer (engine company Captain I) that has said nothing?

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