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	<title>Comments on: Ohio City Hires FF&#8217;s, Saves $$&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: DaGonz</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/01/ohio-city-hires-ffs-saves-s/comment-page-1/#comment-10021</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I paid for part of that building... wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#039;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &quot; I didn&#039;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&quot;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#039;s &quot;Groundhog Day&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I paid for part of that building&#8230; wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#39;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &#8221; I didn&#39;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,</p>
<p>The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.</p>
<p>We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.</p>
<p>If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.</p>
<p>By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#39;s &#8220;Groundhog Day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGonz</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/01/ohio-city-hires-ffs-saves-s/comment-page-1/#comment-5826</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I paid for part of that building... wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#039;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &quot; I didn&#039;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&quot;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#039;s &quot;Groundhog Day&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I paid for part of that building&#8230; wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#39;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &#8221; I didn&#39;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,</p>
<p>The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.</p>
<p>We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.</p>
<p>If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.</p>
<p>By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#39;s &#8220;Groundhog Day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGonz</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/01/ohio-city-hires-ffs-saves-s/comment-page-1/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I paid for part of that building... wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#039;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &quot; I didn&#039;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&quot;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#039;s &quot;Groundhog Day&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I paid for part of that building&#8230; wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#39;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &#8221; I didn&#39;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,</p>
<p>The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.</p>
<p>We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.</p>
<p>If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.</p>
<p>By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#39;s &#8220;Groundhog Day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGonz</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/01/ohio-city-hires-ffs-saves-s/comment-page-1/#comment-4805</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I paid for part of that building... wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#039;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &quot; I didn&#039;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&quot;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#039;s &quot;Groundhog Day&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I paid for part of that building&#8230; wifey has a lot of Longaberger baskets and has given them as gifts.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago, at the budget hearings, the chairman of the City Council&#39;s finance committee praised the Chief for keeping OT costs down. The Chief replied &#8221; I didn&#39;t do it.. you allowed me to fill positions, therefore decreasing the need for OT&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Fast forward to the budget hearings for FY 2010,,,</p>
<p>The bean counters on the City Council  stated that there was too much money in the OT account and cut it by $80K.  We also have  firefighter retiring this month, and they cut the salary account to reflect his retirement.</p>
<p>We have had a number of firefighters on extended sick leave and Injury leave, couple that with contractual time off for vacations and such, the OT account is becoming depleted.  We also have 4 firefighters that can retire tomorrow if they choose .. thereby compounding the need for OT.</p>
<p>If the Finance Committee rejects the idea putting additional funds into the OT account and the Council votes for their recommendation we will have to brown out a station as staffing dictates.</p>
<p>By the way.. the City has over $12 million in the coffers between the free cash and he stabilization accounts.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think we are in the fire service version of Bill Murray&#39;s &#8220;Groundhog Day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fire Daily</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/01/ohio-city-hires-ffs-saves-s/comment-page-1/#comment-4802</link>
		<dc:creator>Fire Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered why a municipality would pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for OT rather than higher more people.  It never made sense to me.  This chief did the math, AND the powers-that-be listened.  A win-win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve always wondered why a municipality would pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for OT rather than higher more people.  It never made sense to me.  This chief did the math, AND the powers-that-be listened.  A win-win.</p>
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		<title>By: Fire Daily</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/12/01/ohio-city-hires-ffs-saves-s/comment-page-1/#comment-4801</link>
		<dc:creator>Fire Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered why a municipality would pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for OT rather than higher more people.  It never made sense to me.  This chief did the math, AND the powers-that-be listened.  A win-win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve always wondered why a municipality would pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for OT rather than higher more people.  It never made sense to me.  This chief did the math, AND the powers-that-be listened.  A win-win.</p>
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