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		<title>By: Dal90</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-10373</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a labor grievance from 1979 that dates the practice (for Deputy Chiefs) of parking their POVs inside firehouses at least back to 1969.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Union lost that time, but was seeking in part of the grievance to expand the practice to allow any member and not just Deputies to park inside.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pdf/1979/1810.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#39;s a labor grievance from 1979 that dates the practice (for Deputy Chiefs) of parking their POVs inside firehouses at least back to 1969.</p>
<p>The Union lost that time, but was seeking in part of the grievance to expand the practice to allow any member and not just Deputies to park inside.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pdf/1979/1810.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dal90</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-10374</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, they mean inside the firehouse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not uncommon practice in Hartford from what I understand, particularly when you have a house that was built for multiple companies and now only houses a single.  Off going shift pulls out, incoming shift pulls in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise your car is put up on blocks and stripped.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inside or out of the firehouse shouldn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s either city property or not, the fact that there is a roof over it shouldn&#039;t impact the decision making.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;  Just how blindingly stupid can some people get? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s Hartford.  Never underestimate the ability of that city&#039;s politicians to amaze you with profound dysfunction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Mayor was arrested in January on bribery charges (pretty solid evidence...a city contract renovated his house and never billed for the work...until two years later they heard there was an investigation and invoices and checks started to be written).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was arrested again in September on extortion charges.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trial to start soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, they mean inside the firehouse.</p>
<p>Not uncommon practice in Hartford from what I understand, particularly when you have a house that was built for multiple companies and now only houses a single.  Off going shift pulls out, incoming shift pulls in.</p>
<p>Otherwise your car is put up on blocks and stripped.</p>
<p>Inside or out of the firehouse shouldn&#39;t matter.  It&#39;s either city property or not, the fact that there is a roof over it shouldn&#39;t impact the decision making.</p>
<p>&gt;  Just how blindingly stupid can some people get? </p>
<p>It&#39;s Hartford.  Never underestimate the ability of that city&#39;s politicians to amaze you with profound dysfunction.</p>
<p>The Mayor was arrested in January on bribery charges (pretty solid evidence&#8230;a city contract renovated his house and never billed for the work&#8230;until two years later they heard there was an investigation and invoices and checks started to be written).</p>
<p>He was arrested again in September on extortion charges.  </p>
<p>Trial to start soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dal90</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5821</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a labor grievance from 1979 that dates the practice (for Deputy Chiefs) of parking their POVs inside firehouses at least back to 1969.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Union lost that time, but was seeking in part of the grievance to expand the practice to allow any member and not just Deputies to park inside.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pdf/1979/1810.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#39;s a labor grievance from 1979 that dates the practice (for Deputy Chiefs) of parking their POVs inside firehouses at least back to 1969.</p>
<p>The Union lost that time, but was seeking in part of the grievance to expand the practice to allow any member and not just Deputies to park inside.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pdf/1979/1810.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dal90</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5820</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, they mean inside the firehouse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not uncommon practice in Hartford from what I understand, particularly when you have a house that was built for multiple companies and now only houses a single.  Off going shift pulls out, incoming shift pulls in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise your car is put up on blocks and stripped.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inside or out of the firehouse shouldn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s either city property or not, the fact that there is a roof over it shouldn&#039;t impact the decision making.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;  Just how blindingly stupid can some people get? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s Hartford.  Never underestimate the ability of that city&#039;s politicians to amaze you with profound dysfunction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Mayor was arrested in January on bribery charges (pretty solid evidence...a city contract renovated his house and never billed for the work...until two years later they heard there was an investigation and invoices and checks started to be written).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was arrested again in September on extortion charges.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trial to start soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, they mean inside the firehouse.</p>
<p>Not uncommon practice in Hartford from what I understand, particularly when you have a house that was built for multiple companies and now only houses a single.  Off going shift pulls out, incoming shift pulls in.</p>
<p>Otherwise your car is put up on blocks and stripped.</p>
<p>Inside or out of the firehouse shouldn&#39;t matter.  It&#39;s either city property or not, the fact that there is a roof over it shouldn&#39;t impact the decision making.</p>
<p>&gt;  Just how blindingly stupid can some people get? </p>
<p>It&#39;s Hartford.  Never underestimate the ability of that city&#39;s politicians to amaze you with profound dysfunction.</p>
<p>The Mayor was arrested in January on bribery charges (pretty solid evidence&#8230;a city contract renovated his house and never billed for the work&#8230;until two years later they heard there was an investigation and invoices and checks started to be written).</p>
<p>He was arrested again in September on extortion charges.  </p>
<p>Trial to start soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dal90</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-4557</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a labor grievance from 1979 that dates the practice (for Deputy Chiefs) of parking their POVs inside firehouses at least back to 1969.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Union lost that time, but was seeking in part of the grievance to expand the practice to allow any member and not just Deputies to park inside.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pdf/1979/1810.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#39;s a labor grievance from 1979 that dates the practice (for Deputy Chiefs) of parking their POVs inside firehouses at least back to 1969.</p>
<p>The Union lost that time, but was seeking in part of the grievance to expand the practice to allow any member and not just Deputies to park inside.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pdf/1979/1810.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/csblr/decisions-pd</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dal90</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-4554</link>
		<dc:creator>Dal90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, they mean inside the firehouse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not uncommon practice in Hartford from what I understand, particularly when you have a house that was built for multiple companies and now only houses a single.  Off going shift pulls out, incoming shift pulls in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise your car is put up on blocks and stripped.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inside or out of the firehouse shouldn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s either city property or not, the fact that there is a roof over it shouldn&#039;t impact the decision making.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;  Just how blindingly stupid can some people get? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s Hartford.  Never underestimate the ability of that city&#039;s politicians to amaze you with profound dysfunction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Mayor was arrested in January on bribery charges (pretty solid evidence...a city contract renovated his house and never billed for the work...until two years later they heard there was an investigation and invoices and checks started to be written).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was arrested again in September on extortion charges.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Trial to start soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, they mean inside the firehouse.</p>
<p>Not uncommon practice in Hartford from what I understand, particularly when you have a house that was built for multiple companies and now only houses a single.  Off going shift pulls out, incoming shift pulls in.</p>
<p>Otherwise your car is put up on blocks and stripped.</p>
<p>Inside or out of the firehouse shouldn&#39;t matter.  It&#39;s either city property or not, the fact that there is a roof over it shouldn&#39;t impact the decision making.</p>
<p>&gt;  Just how blindingly stupid can some people get? </p>
<p>It&#39;s Hartford.  Never underestimate the ability of that city&#39;s politicians to amaze you with profound dysfunction.</p>
<p>The Mayor was arrested in January on bribery charges (pretty solid evidence&#8230;a city contract renovated his house and never billed for the work&#8230;until two years later they heard there was an investigation and invoices and checks started to be written).</p>
<p>He was arrested again in September on extortion charges.  </p>
<p>Trial to start soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MNChief</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>MNChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We actually had this discussion in my Executive Development class at the NFA.  The example used involved the use of the Confederate Flag, supposedly one firefighter complained that it was racist and the city upheld the complaint and told the offender he couldn&#039;t park his vehicle on city property.  According to the case study the city was legally able to enforce its decision.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Didn&#039;t make sense to me, but I suppose that&#039;s why I&#039;m not a lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We actually had this discussion in my Executive Development class at the NFA.  The example used involved the use of the Confederate Flag, supposedly one firefighter complained that it was racist and the city upheld the complaint and told the offender he couldn&#39;t park his vehicle on city property.  According to the case study the city was legally able to enforce its decision.  </p>
<p>Didn&#39;t make sense to me, but I suppose that&#39;s why I&#39;m not a lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: firegeezer</title>
		<link>http://firegeezer.com/2009/11/13/morning-lineup-november-13-3/comment-page-1/#comment-4549</link>
		<dc:creator>firegeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that they said &quot;inside the firehouse,&quot; but I have to presume that their local jargon refers to the property.  I can&#039;t imagine a muncipal FD permitting firefighters to park inside the building itself.  (just how much space would be in there, anyway?)  But I could be wrong, though.  Maybe we&#039;ll hear from somebody there who can enlighten us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;________________________________</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that they said &#8220;inside the firehouse,&#8221; but I have to presume that their local jargon refers to the property.  I can&#39;t imagine a muncipal FD permitting firefighters to park inside the building itself.  (just how much space would be in there, anyway?)  But I could be wrong, though.  Maybe we&#39;ll hear from somebody there who can enlighten us.</p>
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		<title>By: NeilMcD</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeilMcD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I think the &quot;line&quot; here is the fact that the guy is parking his vehicle *inside* the firehouse.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If they said he can&#039;t park outside the firehouse, that&#039;s one thing but parking a vehicle inside a firehouse festooned with any type of political sentiments may be the issue here. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I think the &#8220;line&#8221; here is the fact that the guy is parking his vehicle *inside* the firehouse.  </p>
<p>If they said he can&#39;t park outside the firehouse, that&#39;s one thing but parking a vehicle inside a firehouse festooned with any type of political sentiments may be the issue here. </p>
<p>-N</p>
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