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Morning Lineup – September 27

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In my latitude, yesterday was that twice-yearly day when it was exactly 12 hours from sunrise to sunset.  So we’re officially steaming toward winter now.  Believe me, within 3 months I’ll have had enough of that.

I don’t normally play videos during the morning lineup, except the occasional buckle-up reminder.  But I want to play this one for you because it relates to something that I want to bring up:

When I watched that yesterday my first thought was, we’re going to see more of that type of squabbling in the months ahead.  I’m sure that there’s more to this dispute than how many assists each department is running to each other.  But this “shot across the bow” looks like it’s meant to bring whatever it is they disagree on up to the top of the negotiating pile.  Somebody is seeing a money crunch coming up and they want to either reduce minimum staffing, or response sizes ( 2 engines, or 3 engines or 4, for example), or something like that.

The other event that we’re starting to witness is the absolute shutdown of small fire departments.  Some larger departments are closing stations and now some smaller ones are ceasing operations completely.  These are just about always brought on by financial mismanagement, usually directed by the elected politicians.  A recent example that we saw this week is happening in the town of Lincolnville, South Carolina, where the mayor hid the fact from the citizens that he hadn’t paid the liability insurance for the town’s vehicles and the state informed the police and fire departments that they had to stop driving their cars and trucks next week.

Another problem that keeps popping up here and there is unreliable fire apparatus that is too old to stay in service reliably.  And the townspeople wring their hands because they just don’t have the money to buy a replacement.  Listen, folks.  That’s not due to “hard times.”  That’s because their finances have been mismanaged.  Most departments/towns/districts set aside a set amount of money each year into a captial fund account so that when there’s a replacement needed, then the cash is there to buy it.  The same goes for daily operations.  Poor planning kept budgeting tax income for more and fancier things without providing for the so-called “rainy day” that always comes around every now and then.

There are some communities that were passing tax increases all nilly-willy whenever they needed to make a capital expenditure.  But the citizens are feeling all taxed out now.  They don’t want to pay more.  They just want what’s already being taken to be spent more properly.  There’s no excuse for a city to have a 40-yr.-old ladder truck because they don’t have the $500K to replace it.  They’ve had 40 years to save up for it.  Now that there is a real economic problem nationwide, these slipshod practices are coming to light and can’t be ignored any longer.

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This isn’t quite as widespread as it sometimes appears.  There are 30,000 fire departments in the U. S., most of which are volunteer departments.  True, some of the smaller ones in remote and rural areas are in a perpetual state of poverty, but a well-run state government (and there are several) will have methods of supplementing the costs of their operations.  Most fire departments are not laying off firefighters.  Most fire departments are not closing down stations.  And very few are closing down entirely.  With good planning and financial practices, you can keep your department from falling into this pit.

Ane we definitely need to keep the coffee cupboard stocked.  I’ll go get the coffee started while you get the equipment checked out.

  • B. Morgan

    Sound money management is the key for long term surivial. In our household we try to buy cars with cash and sometimes a small loan. But no matter what we start saving for the next car right away so that a few years down the line we have it there. We also take good care of what we have so it will last a long time. My kid in college is starting to eye my 10 year old Toyota and She can have it if her grades stay high and she pays her share of the insurance.

    Fire Departments need to work with city Governments over the long term to ensure they have funding and if political leaders do not want to play bring it out to the voters.

    Now about the Fire Captain in Miami who is currently pulling in $300,000 a year and will retire on $100.000 plus a year? It’s all legal but others will suffer from it. Better yet read the Miami Herald article on it from last week. I’m not sure I have the facts stright.

  • B. Morgan

    Sound money management is the key for long term surivial. In our household we try to buy cars with cash and sometimes a small loan. But no matter what we start saving for the next car right away so that a few years down the line we have it there. We also take good care of what we have so it will last a long time. My kid in college is starting to eye my 10 year old Toyota and She can have it if her grades stay high and she pays her share of the insurance.

    Fire Departments need to work with city Governments over the long term to ensure they have funding and if political leaders do not want to play bring it out to the voters.

    Now about the Fire Captain in Miami who is currently pulling in $300,000 a year and will retire on $100.000 plus a year? It’s all legal but others will suffer from it. Better yet read the Miami Herald article on it from last week. I’m not sure I have the facts stright.

  • Steve

    My city has two stations. One career, one volunteer. The career station normally has 4 or 5 on shift…unless someone is off. They rightfully have the newest equipment. We provide the warm bodies for structure calls. The manpower. We are the cavalry. Unfortunately, we also have just one truck thats 25 years old. Theres no way we can afford a new one. Grants keep getting denied. City cant afford one either. We are economically depressed here. So what happens when our one truck croaks? Who will run to assist then? Ive tried to beg used trucks from other departments, even ones as old as our current rig. Not happening. I dont know what the future holds for us, but its not likely to be pretty. What happens if the city has to close the career department? YIKES!

    BEcause we are housed in a 100 year old station, we can not allow the public in for fund raising so any of that has to be off site, which severly limits our abilities to be self supporting. Better off departments that tend to drive around in parade peices ought to think about helping out their fellow firefighters by donating older trucks to them rather than taking the few thousand bucks the brokers offer. Sometimes its better to take a small hit to help out locals.

  • Steve

    My city has two stations. One career, one volunteer. The career station normally has 4 or 5 on shift…unless someone is off. They rightfully have the newest equipment. We provide the warm bodies for structure calls. The manpower. We are the cavalry. Unfortunately, we also have just one truck thats 25 years old. Theres no way we can afford a new one. Grants keep getting denied. City cant afford one either. We are economically depressed here. So what happens when our one truck croaks? Who will run to assist then? Ive tried to beg used trucks from other departments, even ones as old as our current rig. Not happening. I dont know what the future holds for us, but its not likely to be pretty. What happens if the city has to close the career department? YIKES!

    BEcause we are housed in a 100 year old station, we can not allow the public in for fund raising so any of that has to be off site, which severly limits our abilities to be self supporting. Better off departments that tend to drive around in parade peices ought to think about helping out their fellow firefighters by donating older trucks to them rather than taking the few thousand bucks the brokers offer. Sometimes its better to take a small hit to help out locals.

  • DaGonz

    What I find ironic is that many city councilors, selectmen and aldermen work in the finance business as accountants and money managers, yet they can’t see the forest for the trees when it comes setting aside financing for replacing fire apparatus, police cruisers and DPW equipment.

    They are the same people who cut equipment maintenance budgets, then want to know why the rigs haven’t been properly maintained.

  • DaGonz

    What I find ironic is that many city councilors, selectmen and aldermen work in the finance business as accountants and money managers, yet they can’t see the forest for the trees when it comes setting aside financing for replacing fire apparatus, police cruisers and DPW equipment.

    They are the same people who cut equipment maintenance budgets, then want to know why the rigs haven’t been properly maintained.

  • Texas Gordo

    I don’t think the problem is only a lack of proper long term planning.

    It hasn’t helped the fire service that it continues to be tasked with an ever increasing laundry list of emergent events it is to be prepared for. Terrorism has been on everyone’s list for the last 8 years, and that covers a host of situations: bio, nuclear, chemical, and more pedestrian IED and ballistic events. Add to this an increasingly uninsured public that engages in behavior that violates all the tenets of good personal and public health.

    This is compounded by the “Big Toys for Big Boys” mentality that seems to infect all departments. The war on terror has created a justification for every hamlet and village to have the ability to respond to the most extreme and successful example that disaster plans can come up with in sand table exercises. As a result the federal faucet was wide open, and everyone is guilty of grabbing at funds for equipment that just wasn’t needed. Every chief and department seems to have the ability to read the tea leaves and realize that their small town in the middle of nowhere is the next target for our enemies, and unfortunately there are always elected officials at the local, state, and federal level were more than willing to argue for those funds for their hometowns as well.

    Does it make financial sense to run an engine or ladder to medical calls so that we can have first responders on scene for a medical call, with a vehicle that weighs more than 30,000 pounds and has 500 gallons of water with it. Do we really need a minimum staffing of 6 firefighters at an abdominal pain call, pain while urinating, laceration calls, etc. Is this a good use of departmental dollars.

    Personally I think that anyone who wants to run for public office shouldn’t release their tax returns, they should have to release their family budgets for the last 5 years. Show me a guy who is running for city council with a family that eats a home cooked meal every night of the week, who only shops at the market twice a week, while using a shopping list, and I will vote for that person. They know how to make a financial plan.

  • Texas Gordo

    I don’t think the problem is only a lack of proper long term planning.

    It hasn’t helped the fire service that it continues to be tasked with an ever increasing laundry list of emergent events it is to be prepared for. Terrorism has been on everyone’s list for the last 8 years, and that covers a host of situations: bio, nuclear, chemical, and more pedestrian IED and ballistic events. Add to this an increasingly uninsured public that engages in behavior that violates all the tenets of good personal and public health.

    This is compounded by the “Big Toys for Big Boys” mentality that seems to infect all departments. The war on terror has created a justification for every hamlet and village to have the ability to respond to the most extreme and successful example that disaster plans can come up with in sand table exercises. As a result the federal faucet was wide open, and everyone is guilty of grabbing at funds for equipment that just wasn’t needed. Every chief and department seems to have the ability to read the tea leaves and realize that their small town in the middle of nowhere is the next target for our enemies, and unfortunately there are always elected officials at the local, state, and federal level were more than willing to argue for those funds for their hometowns as well.

    Does it make financial sense to run an engine or ladder to medical calls so that we can have first responders on scene for a medical call, with a vehicle that weighs more than 30,000 pounds and has 500 gallons of water with it. Do we really need a minimum staffing of 6 firefighters at an abdominal pain call, pain while urinating, laceration calls, etc. Is this a good use of departmental dollars.

    Personally I think that anyone who wants to run for public office shouldn’t release their tax returns, they should have to release their family budgets for the last 5 years. Show me a guy who is running for city council with a family that eats a home cooked meal every night of the week, who only shops at the market twice a week, while using a shopping list, and I will vote for that person. They know how to make a financial plan.