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Rochester FF's Relieved From Recreational Supervision

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FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS ROCHESTER, NEW YORK, firefighters have been assigned to set up and monitor “hydrant bathing” activities during hot summer weather.  Operation Cool Sweeps called for engine companies to set up fire hydrant spraying nozzles at certain selected locations in the city when the temperature exceeded 85 degrees for recreational purposes benefiting neighborhood children.

The firefighters union protested the program because it required the engine company to remain out of service and supervise the acitivity until it was time to turn off the hydrant and disassemble the equipment.  Local president Jim McTiernan said the city was requiring them to supervise a recreational program, and using the fire service in a community policing role.

The local filed an unfair work practice complaint and it was heard last week in the administrative courts.  Administrative Law Judge Jean Doerr ruled against the city saying such tasks represent duties “not inherent in the duties of firefighters,” and therefore constitute an unfair work practice.  In her decision, Doerr wrote that “the assignment of firefighters to set up, monitor, and take down equipment” for recreational purposes entails job duties “not inherent in the duties of firefighters.” And without other city staff to supervise participants at the recreational program, “there was a de facto assignment of supervisory duties to firefighters,” another non-inherent job duty.

The fire chief and the politicians in city hall are upset with the ruling because not only are they losing some free labor from the Recreation Department, but the decision left open the definition of “inherent duties of firefighters.”  The Deputy Mayor is already threatening to lay off firefighters because now they don’t have as much to do (except show up in sufficient numbers to put out a fire).

The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle has the full STORY.

  • FIREhat

    But but but, what kind of customer service is that? They should launder the kids’ towels too.

  • FIREhat

    But but but, what kind of customer service is that? They should launder the kids’ towels too.

  • firebob

    I sure hope the deputy mayor is not for real, cause then they should lay him and the rest of the council cause what do they do after the council meetings, fight and argue and wait till the next month and start over. Maybe they need to do a couple of shifts and see what the firefighters do beside sitting around.

    What a —, lets talk election time.

  • firebob

    I sure hope the deputy mayor is not for real, cause then they should lay him and the rest of the council cause what do they do after the council meetings, fight and argue and wait till the next month and start over. Maybe they need to do a couple of shifts and see what the firefighters do beside sitting around.

    What a —, lets talk election time.

  • FireGears

    200 years of FD Tradition completely uneffected by
    logic, progress and… public service…

    Sounds like a great mission for a group of Vollies/AUX/Cadets/Retired…
    Add to it a “ReHab Wagon” for large/extended alarms..

    Might be very positive for the FD…
    Good PubEd and ReHab…
    PLUS, an introduction to the FD for younger folks.

    The Union and Management should be looking for a “win-win”
    instead of feuding…

    It would not be too hard for both sides to come out of this
    “smelling like a rose”… THINK ABOUT IT..!!!!!!

  • FireGears

    200 years of FD Tradition completely uneffected by
    logic, progress and… public service…

    Sounds like a great mission for a group of Vollies/AUX/Cadets/Retired…
    Add to it a “ReHab Wagon” for large/extended alarms..

    Might be very positive for the FD…
    Good PubEd and ReHab…
    PLUS, an introduction to the FD for younger folks.

    The Union and Management should be looking for a “win-win”
    instead of feuding…

    It would not be too hard for both sides to come out of this
    “smelling like a rose”… THINK ABOUT IT..!!!!!!

  • Texas Gordo

    I’m with FireGears on this one. The Union won the battle, but has most certainly lost the chance to win the hearts and minds of the city they serve.

  • Texas Gordo

    I’m with FireGears on this one. The Union won the battle, but has most certainly lost the chance to win the hearts and minds of the city they serve.

  • wackerbob

    Fire gears hit the nail on the head…the city council and mayor are elected officials…they must respond to the public that they are voted into office by…the firefighters are not…so when the next round of negotiations comes up for the union and they dont get what they want and strike…then the citizens will remember that the firefighters couldnt manage to conduct some PR and customer service to them…looks like the union will come out looking like the a**holes out of this one….

  • wackerbob

    Fire gears hit the nail on the head…the city council and mayor are elected officials…they must respond to the public that they are voted into office by…the firefighters are not…so when the next round of negotiations comes up for the union and they dont get what they want and strike…then the citizens will remember that the firefighters couldnt manage to conduct some PR and customer service to them…looks like the union will come out looking like the a**holes out of this one….