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Firehouse Roulette Rolls Into Ohio

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THE CITY OF WARREN, OHIO, LAID OFF AN ENTIRE ENGINE company, 11 firefighters, back in January and closed a firehouse.  Tuesday morning a fire started before daybreak at a group-care home located just a couple of blocks away from the shuttered fire station.  The blaze, later determined to be an arson, was set on the front porch and was discovered by a passerby who was delivering newspapers.  She found a policeman and reported the fire to him, and he radioed in the alarm.

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Vindicator / Yosay photo

Then the police officer went to the house and started banging on the door to roust the caretaker who let him in.  By then the fire had alreadyextended into the building.  The two of them went upstairs to get the three mentally-handicapped residents and started to lead them to safety when the fire cut them off.  The caretaker was in a different stairwell and she escaped, but the policeman and three patients were trapped and in a desperate situation.  By then the town’s two remaining engines and ladder truck had been dispatched.

When the FD arrived on the scene they had to concentrate on rescuing the four victims, which they heroically accomplished.  All four of them are in critical condition and the policeman is in an induced coma, although breathing on his own. 

“He’s a very brave, dedicated police officer, and we just pray to God he’s going to survive these injuries,” Police Chief Tim Bowers said Tuesday afternoon.

IAFF Local president Mark Titus said he is frustrated firefighters were unable to get to the blaze any sooner. He said closing of the nearby fire station on Atlantic Street Northeast because of manpower issues slowed response time by three to four minutes.  “If that station was open, this would not have happened. He would not have had to go in there,” Titus said.

When the 11 firefighters were laid off in January, the remaining force agreed to a pay freeze this year.  Just last week on Monday, April 20, the FF’s were called into the mayor’s office and given an ultimatum.  They were told that if they didn’t now agree to a pay cut, then another 15 firefighters would be laid off immediately.

The Local then went public, approaching the newspaper and local radio and tv stations where they let told of this latest arm-twisting by the mayor.  The mayor then became angered that they disclosed this gambit declaring,  “This is a private matter that should be kept private.” (Firegeezer is willing to bet that the taxpayers have a different opinion on that.)

Today we see why the mayor is disappointed that his plans became known.

Read the details of yesterday’s fire and rescue in the Youngstown Vindicator HERE
IAFF Local 204 WEBSITE.

Addendum:
This fire occurred just four hours after a similar event in Flint, Michigan, where a man died in a fire and three FF’s were burned trying to rescue him. The FF’s had arrived on a ladder truck and had no water because their engine was shut down due to layoffs that took place this past Sunday. STATter911 has the full story on this tragedy HERE.

Hat tip to Jim McC.

  • Todd

    Any leads on the arson? I hate to even say it, but is it possible that someone from that department started the fire to prove a point? By all the power of God in Heaven, I pray not!

  • Todd

    Any leads on the arson? I hate to even say it, but is it possible that someone from that department started the fire to prove a point? By all the power of God in Heaven, I pray not!

  • Dan Suttles

    Todd, How dare you suggest one of us would set the fire!!! We are professional firefighters, not a bunch of vollies who do this as a hobby. We take our jobs seriously and are here to serve not to play. #@##! You!

  • Dan Suttles

    Todd, How dare you suggest one of us would set the fire!!! We are professional firefighters, not a bunch of vollies who do this as a hobby. We take our jobs seriously and are here to serve not to play. #@##! You!

  • Lynne

    Lay off the Vollies. They work hard and consider it another job.

    I understand your dissapointment in the other post but please don’t insinuate a vollie would do it either.

  • Lynne

    Lay off the Vollies. They work hard and consider it another job.

    I understand your dissapointment in the other post but please don’t insinuate a vollie would do it either.

  • http://yourhappymedic.blogspot.com/ the Happy Medic

    Vollie and career aside, this is a time to come together as providers and spread the word to your residents that closing fire stations kills people.

    Plain and simple.

    City hall, City Managers, TV stations, coffee shops, get the word out. Call your local IAFF union hall and get involved.
    My department tried closing stations a few years back and voters actually got together and had a special election to stop it after a man died near a closed firehouse.

    Take off your helmet and get your walking shoes on. Get the word out and stay safe.

    Great coverage Firegeezer, keep up the good work.
    HM

  • Jim

    The past speaks for itself. Vollies have a history of setting fires because they are bored after a hard night of bingo (fund raising)

  • http://yourhappymedic.blogspot.com the Happy Medic

    Vollie and career aside, this is a time to come together as providers and spread the word to your residents that closing fire stations kills people.

    Plain and simple.

    City hall, City Managers, TV stations, coffee shops, get the word out. Call your local IAFF union hall and get involved.
    My department tried closing stations a few years back and voters actually got together and had a special election to stop it after a man died near a closed firehouse.

    Take off your helmet and get your walking shoes on. Get the word out and stay safe.

    Great coverage Firegeezer, keep up the good work.
    HM

  • Jim

    The past speaks for itself. Vollies have a history of setting fires because they are bored after a hard night of bingo (fund raising)

  • http://yourhappymedic.blogspot.com/ the Happy Medic

    Just went to leave a suggestion at the Warren, Ohio City website. Comments to City Hall has been disabled by the administrator.

  • http://yourhappymedic.blogspot.com the Happy Medic

    Just went to leave a suggestion at the Warren, Ohio City website. Comments to City Hall has been disabled by the administrator.

  • RICH

    Jim your ignorance is showing.

  • RICH

    Jim your ignorance is showing.

  • Jim

    The truth will set you free

  • Jim

    The truth will set you free

  • richard

    as a retired professional FF of 23 years and founder of a VFD in an formally unserved, area I resent all the comments about vollies.

    Seems “brotherhood” to some begins and ends with the union decal on the rear window. In my modest experience the brotherhood always went deeper than that.

    I’d rather spend time with my brother VOLUNTEER FF’s than a bunch of overpaid whiners with matching decals. I’ve seen more sacrifice of time, money and comfort with my volunteers than I ever did with my pro’s.

    All antagonism aside, there are enough fulltime/volunteer idiosyncrasies without attacking our own. We all have the common trait of running into burning buildings while everyone with any sense is trying to run out.

    layoff the vollie=firestarter comments and I wont be forced to retort with all the recent paid FF incidents that make the news here. (Cincinnati ?)

  • richard

    as a retired professional FF of 23 years and founder of a VFD in an formally unserved, area I resent all the comments about vollies.

    Seems “brotherhood” to some begins and ends with the union decal on the rear window. In my modest experience the brotherhood always went deeper than that.

    I’d rather spend time with my brother VOLUNTEER FF’s than a bunch of overpaid whiners with matching decals. I’ve seen more sacrifice of time, money and comfort with my volunteers than I ever did with my pro’s.

    All antagonism aside, there are enough fulltime/volunteer idiosyncrasies without attacking our own. We all have the common trait of running into burning buildings while everyone with any sense is trying to run out.

    layoff the vollie=firestarter comments and I wont be forced to retort with all the recent paid FF incidents that make the news here. (Cincinnati ?)

  • RJ

    The cinching of the noose on all municipal safety is showing its dreadful side. This could have been prevented, but as long as it doesn’t affect the people making the decisions, its of little concern.

    On the vollie vs. paid FF’s. Our county and 95% of our surrounding counties are completely made up of vollies. I am damn proud to be in this proffesion, even as a vollie. Yes, I would love to get paid for it, but that aside, it is not a hobby and we put our life on the line the same as any other members across the states. Our 5 department borough is constantly doing in-house and certified training. And to make a statement of arson against a department or it’s personnel is outrageous. Lastly, we have to do fund raisers since we don’t have a borough or county budget to buy us our equipment, maintain our buildings, etc. How else would you expect an 18-25 member company to pay for $300k to $1+ million for apparatus, gear, etc. “Yes, you can be a member, but you need be trained and we will need $75k dues for your first year!”

  • RJ

    The cinching of the noose on all municipal safety is showing its dreadful side. This could have been prevented, but as long as it doesn’t affect the people making the decisions, its of little concern.

    On the vollie vs. paid FF’s. Our county and 95% of our surrounding counties are completely made up of vollies. I am damn proud to be in this proffesion, even as a vollie. Yes, I would love to get paid for it, but that aside, it is not a hobby and we put our life on the line the same as any other members across the states. Our 5 department borough is constantly doing in-house and certified training. And to make a statement of arson against a department or it’s personnel is outrageous. Lastly, we have to do fund raisers since we don’t have a borough or county budget to buy us our equipment, maintain our buildings, etc. How else would you expect an 18-25 member company to pay for $300k to $1+ million for apparatus, gear, etc. “Yes, you can be a member, but you need be trained and we will need $75k dues for your first year!”

  • http://livinthedream-fire.blogspot.com/ The Road Doc

    Can we ignore the idiot that suggested arson on the part of the FD, and forget about Career vs. Vollie for one minute and concentrate on the FACT that in two separate instances fires have occurred where FF’s efforts were drastically hampered by the idiot City Hall Dwellers.

    We will never get anywhere w/ our fight to keep station houses open they way we bicker and in-fight amongst ourselves.

  • http://livinthedream-fire.blogspot.com/ The Road Doc

    Can we ignore the idiot that suggested arson on the part of the FD, and forget about Career vs. Vollie for one minute and concentrate on the FACT that in two separate instances fires have occurred where FF’s efforts were drastically hampered by the idiot City Hall Dwellers.

    We will never get anywhere w/ our fight to keep station houses open they way we bicker and in-fight amongst ourselves.

  • Jim

    I agree, I think the first idiot poster just wanted to get a debate going. But to insinuate that the department was involved was below LOW!

  • Jim

    I agree, I think the first idiot poster just wanted to get a debate going. But to insinuate that the department was involved was below LOW!

  • B Morgan

    Lets look at the facts:
    A citizen observes and reports the fire.

    A first arriving police officer does his duty to warn and attempt to remove people in harms way. He sees the need to act, and act quickly. He is the hero. Do The Right Thing.

    The city in a very bad move had closed a nearby fire station.

    A delayed respose from distant stations injures 4.
    Including the officer.

    It’s no time to place blame on any one for starting the fire. Let the investigators do that.

    Career or volunteer we are here to do the same job.
    We have bigger problems to deal with then fighting with each other.

    I have served with both and our job is to save lives, put out fires and serve our community.

    And in the end,
    Anyone who sets any fire with the potential to harm others or actually hurts anyone needs a rope or life in prison.

    I hope all injured recover.

  • B Morgan

    Lets look at the facts:
    A citizen observes and reports the fire.

    A first arriving police officer does his duty to warn and attempt to remove people in harms way. He sees the need to act, and act quickly. He is the hero. Do The Right Thing.

    The city in a very bad move had closed a nearby fire station.

    A delayed respose from distant stations injures 4.
    Including the officer.

    It’s no time to place blame on any one for starting the fire. Let the investigators do that.

    Career or volunteer we are here to do the same job.
    We have bigger problems to deal with then fighting with each other.

    I have served with both and our job is to save lives, put out fires and serve our community.

    And in the end,
    Anyone who sets any fire with the potential to harm others or actually hurts anyone needs a rope or life in prison.

    I hope all injured recover.