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There are over a million individuals who identify themselves as firefighters. Almost 350,000 make firefighting a career, 292,000 of them are members of a local chapter of the International Association of Fire Fighters.

WHEN IAFF MEMBERS “TWO-HAT”

Two-hatters are IAFF members who volunteer at another department that is represented by another IAFF local. The conflict is about the activity of a trade union member in another local’s jurisdiction and the compliance with the rules and regulations of the International.

Former Kentland volunteer and Local 1619 President Tom McEachin introduced Resolution 43 at the 2000 IAFF convention.  Two-hatters and their allies engaged in a campaign that gained national attention.

TriData determined that Prince George’s County Fire Department has 678 employees and 1099 volunteers. (HERE – see page 130)  Local 1619 identified about 200 PG volunteers as two-hatters.

John A. Mutchler, a former member of the PG Fire Commission, created an excellent repository of information about this issue HERE.

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Two-hatting is a polarizing and emotional issue. Phantom, a DCFD employee and PG volunteer, describes the start of TheWatchDesk (TWD):

The concept that underlies the operations of TWD had their start in late 2000 when International Association of Firefighter’s Local 1619 attacked members of surrounding locals for volunteering in Prince George’s County Volunteer Fire Stations.

… This board quickly became controversial and moved into private ownership with better software, it was then that Phantom registered the name “TheWatchDesk.com” and with the help of Zorro established the site.

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NATIONAL CRISIS OVER A LOCAL ISSUE

As the issues were spun-up the nature of the discussion changed.  Moving beyond TheWatchDesk forum, most of the posters on the fire service message boards were NOT an IAFF or PG volunteer member.

Fire service opinion leaders and pundits also weighed in. PG is a busy urban county that provides varsity-level firefighting. The editorials and articles had nothing to do with the PG issue but added to the angst, anger and static of volunteer-versus-paid debates.

After months of back-and-forth discussons on TheWatchDesk, “Brother vs. Brother” was published in the January 2003 issue of Fire Chief magazine (HERE)

This example was the driving force to write the article:

Former volunteer fire chief and Pennsylvania Congressman Curt Weldon made a statement on the floor of the House of Representatives on Feb. 27, 2002, asking, “Does this mean that those career firefighters from other departments that went to New York City would lose their union cards if this were enforced because they were volunteering to help their brother firefighters in a time of need?”

That is not the objective of Resolution 43, … (HERE)

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I continued participating in two-hatter message board discussions.  There were other high-profile PGFD activities that kept firehouse.com forums hopping.

A 2007 issue became a public policy case study. The Battle Over Kentland Ambulance 339: I did not join the VFD to ride an ambulance!

The two-hatter issue became old.  The Resolution 43 trial boards made it clear that DC Local 36 does not care about two-hatters.

IAFF RESOLUTION 2 REIGNITES THE DEBATE

The Illinois delegation submitted Resolution at the 2008 convention.

Resolution 2 directs the IAFF to delete Article XV, Section 3 and insert a new subsection to the list of defined misconduct as “working a secondary job part-time, paid on call, volunteer or otherwise as a firefighter, emergency medical services worker, public safety or law enforcement officer, or as a worker in a related service, whether in the public or private sector, where such job is within the work jurisdiction of any affiliate or which adversely impacts the interests of any affiliate or the IAFF.

Upon a finding of guilt…it is recommended that the penalty include disqualification from holding office in any affiliate and/or expulsion from membership for the period that the misconduct persists. Charges filed for the misconduct described…shall be preferred by a member of the charged party’s local and/or member of an adversely affected affiliate.”

The expansion of the description of misconduct activity addresses a problem in Illinois with union members working as PART-TIME firefighters at another town with full-time IAFF members. The part-timers are working for an hourly rate that is 30-50% less than the hourly rate for full-time firefighters. More information in THIS blog item.

UNION BANNING MEMBERS FROM VOLUNTEERING?

Title from the January 28, 2009, entry by FirefighterNation and IACOJ blogger  Art “ChiefReason” Goodrich. Read it HERE.  This post received 55 comments on FFN and 123 comments on the International Association of Crusty Old Jakes.

The post generated passion, heat and inaccurate assertions.  Most of the posters are not IAFF members. A few remind me of “experts” who know that it was a US missle/truck bomb and not a hijacked 757 that hit the Pentagon.

Chief Goodrich provided 22 years of service to an Illinois volunteer department.  He responsed on the IACOJ message board:

I belonged to a union, but it wasn’t a firefighter union, but I don’t think any union is so different from another in terms of purpose. They all seem to operate off of a similar set of core values and missions.

I have not been in the career fire service, but have had some collateral exposure to it in my mutual aid assistance.

And if anyone who read and understood my motivation for writing the blog, it was more from a “civil liberties” focus and in no way, do I buy in to the hysteria that the IAFF is going to drive volunteers from the service, because I know that it will never happen. At least, not in my life time.

MY PERSPECTIVE

I was an engine company commander working at a busy station where seven of the nine members of the shift were African-American. Some firehouse kitchen discussions ended with … “It is a Black thing, you would not understand.”

I appreciated that their experience, background, expectations and “hot button” issues are different than mine. Not better or worse, just different.

I had transformational experience that was different from Goodrich’s collateral experience responding with career crews on mutual aid. My first assignment as a county firefighter was at the station where I started as a volunteer.

There was a dramatic change in perspective when I had to work at the place I volunteered at.  Some of the features of the volunteer station I thought were “cool” when spending a weekend at the VFD became a problem when I worked 56 hours a week at the house.

Had a similar experience when I went from adjunct to full time as a university professor. In both cases I was not expecting such a change, since I had years of experience as a volunteer firefighter and a part-time professor. I had skill sets, but I did not “know the job.”

I have been a member of other labor organizations. The IAFF is different.

The unique history of the fire service results in convoluted isues. One hundred years ago career firefighters worked continuous duty, getting just one to two days off a month.  No other municipal employee worked that schedule.

I no longer entertain the fantasy that I can change anyone’s mind, regardless of the research, examples or well-crafted message board postings.  It is tiring to see the same innaccurate “facts” spewing from non-union firefighters when discussing two-hatters.

When the next event starts another barrage of message board posts by non-unionized firefighters, I will respond:

It is a Labor thing …

… you would not understand.

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  • Mistymountainjeeper

    I do understand. I am a member of the Teamsters Union and I haul wood chips in a b-train. I also drive the trucks in the local VFD. Who thinks the Teamsters would be foolish enough to try to make an issue of this?
    Politics will be the downfall of all civilization.

  • Mistymountainjeeper

    I do understand. I am a member of the Teamsters Union and I haul wood chips in a b-train. I also drive the trucks in the local VFD. Who thinks the Teamsters would be foolish enough to try to make an issue of this?
    Politics will be the downfall of all civilization.

  • http://firegeezer.com/ FossilMedic

    Response from Mike Kilburg President of IAFF Local 2720, Country Club Hills Illinois:

    I live with the “two-hatting” issue up close and personal. I am the president of a small IAFF local in the southern suburbs of Chicago. There are very very very few VOLUNTEER fire departments around here. Everyday the taxpayers of my town and others are paying the majority of the freight for towns that are too cheap to hire their own career people.

    It makes my job at the bargaining table a hell of a lot harder when management knows that we have people selfish and stupid enough to work part-time at another fire department. I know this issue as well as anybody out here and also know the fact that it really effects small locals like mine. Don’t give me the old bad economy argument either. This has been going on for a very long time. My position is simple. If you choose to work part-time for another fire department, you are wrong.

    There is no one size fits all approach to this issue. All the arguments have been placed out there. The IAFF has done more then any other organization to improve conditions of ALL firefighters. I do not agree with all of the IAFF positions…. But nobody is holding a gun to my head forcing me to be a member either.

  • http://firegeezer.com FossilMedic

    Response from Mike Kilburg President of IAFF Local 2720, Country Club Hills Illinois:

    I live with the “two-hatting” issue up close and personal. I am the president of a small IAFF local in the southern suburbs of Chicago. There are very very very few VOLUNTEER fire departments around here. Everyday the taxpayers of my town and others are paying the majority of the freight for towns that are too cheap to hire their own career people.

    It makes my job at the bargaining table a hell of a lot harder when management knows that we have people selfish and stupid enough to work part-time at another fire department. I know this issue as well as anybody out here and also know the fact that it really effects small locals like mine. Don’t give me the old bad economy argument either. This has been going on for a very long time. My position is simple. If you choose to work part-time for another fire department, you are wrong.

    There is no one size fits all approach to this issue. All the arguments have been placed out there. The IAFF has done more then any other organization to improve conditions of ALL firefighters. I do not agree with all of the IAFF positions…. But nobody is holding a gun to my head forcing me to be a member either.

  • Jon

    Wait a minute Firegeezer. I agree with you most of the time, but on this issue, no way. Unions did a fine job helping millions of American working for low wages, unfair and/or unsafe working conditions. Bravo. That doesn’t mean that every stand they take is the right one. Union leaders can be in down in their bunkers for so long, they end up with a warped view how the world can or should “work”. IAFF is wrong. It is a (free, American) labor thing and you would not understand.

  • Jon

    Wait a minute Firegeezer. I agree with you most of the time, but on this issue, no way. Unions did a fine job helping millions of American working for low wages, unfair and/or unsafe working conditions. Bravo. That doesn’t mean that every stand they take is the right one. Union leaders can be in down in their bunkers for so long, they end up with a warped view how the world can or should “work”. IAFF is wrong. It is a (free, American) labor thing and you would not understand.

  • http://firegeezer.com/ FossilMedic

    Hi Jon, thanks for the reply.

    What part of the labor perspective about two-hatters is warped?

    Mike “FossilMedic” Ward

  • http://firegeezer.com FossilMedic

    Hi Jon, thanks for the reply.

    What part of the labor perspective about two-hatters is warped?

    Mike “FossilMedic” Ward

  • Kevin

    I’m a small town home-response vollie far removed from this, so maybe “I don’t understand” but I think I do get unions. Here’s my logic: The IAFF is like any other union, its priorities are in some combination to increase its membership by expanding or protecting union jobs, increase or protect wages and benefits, and improve working conditions and safety for its members. This is exactly what it should be doing, and members should support these goals or it’s a club, not a union.

    So here’s the question: if you take the two-hatters off their vollie jobs, will the powers that be hire more career firefighters? Or will they run trucks even more short-staffed (or with less experienced “single hat” volunteers) or shut down stations, compromising firefighter safety? Most likely, some combination of the two, and union members will need to weigh them and decide. The IAFF obviously thinks it has the answer. But budget realities today may not be so simple. I tend to think station shutdowns and three or even two man crews are more likely than new hires in most places where two-hatters and volunteers are a real prescence.

  • Kevin

    I’m a small town home-response vollie far removed from this, so maybe “I don’t understand” but I think I do get unions. Here’s my logic: The IAFF is like any other union, its priorities are in some combination to increase its membership by expanding or protecting union jobs, increase or protect wages and benefits, and improve working conditions and safety for its members. This is exactly what it should be doing, and members should support these goals or it’s a club, not a union.

    So here’s the question: if you take the two-hatters off their vollie jobs, will the powers that be hire more career firefighters? Or will they run trucks even more short-staffed (or with less experienced “single hat” volunteers) or shut down stations, compromising firefighter safety? Most likely, some combination of the two, and union members will need to weigh them and decide. The IAFF obviously thinks it has the answer. But budget realities today may not be so simple. I tend to think station shutdowns and three or even two man crews are more likely than new hires in most places where two-hatters and volunteers are a real prescence.

  • Mike “fossilmedic” Ward

    Well, it appears that a few northeast locals ARE telling their members not to participate as volunteer firefighters even in departments with no paid members.

    Dave Statter’s item:
    http://www.wusa9.com/news/columnist/blogs/2009/02/enforcing-two-hat-rules-how-one-new.html

    I also have heard from others.

    Mike
    standing corrected

  • Mike “fossilmedic” Ward

    Well, it appears that a few northeast locals ARE telling their members not to participate as volunteer firefighters even in departments with no paid members.

    Dave Statter’s item:
    http://www.wusa9.com/news/columnist/blogs/2009/02/enforcing-two-hat-rules-how-one-new.html

    I also have heard from others.

    Mike
    standing corrected

  • Dan

    Fossilmedic,

    This is an interesting blog or article on this issue which seems to be entering a new phase but still not necessarily a mature phase.

    I have never been a “two-hatter” but have spent nearly my entire volunteer and paid-on-call fire service career in the combination departments – large (same place as you in PG) and a small (current town I live in) and it is really disappointing to see this issue surface selectively where the IAFF locals choose to utilize the bylaw.

    I believe it becomes more polarizing and divisive because of how it is “selectively” applied or enforced by various affiliates. I don’t quite get the “it’s a labor thing” in your article and the african american analogy may not be the best example of the point you are trying to get accross.

    I think the metro Chicago union president in the previous post seems to effectively explain the key reason and rational for the bylaw and a particular affiliates decision to use or invoke it on it’s membership. This is something any reasonable individual with a “pro or con position” can understand and respect. We may not agree but we can respect the position or statement.

    Why can’t the IAFF and it’s affiliates just stop using other “reasons” for why the bylaw is in place and enforced? There are affiliates who won’t enforce it or take it away where they have members who want the opportunity to volunteer or make extra money in part time positions because there is no political reason beacuse of where the leadership or the majority of thier members stand on this issue.

    However, another affiliate or group of affiliates will allow a local or group of locals to use it as leverage to gain or maintain staffing or deal with a trend or problem they do not or cannot adress head on and uses various outlets to publicize it which causes negative press, strife and helps feed the blogs.

    This issue has a huge downside for the american fire service because it is a “cancer” to operating & sustaining a healthy combination fire rescue service. Many cities and towns will need this combination service model to provide reasonable and effective staffing, probably more neccessary in the next 3-5 years and likely much longer due to the fiscal challenges in every corner of the country.

    I like the perspective a fellow FF provided to me who is an IAFF member and cardholder and a “two-hatter” by definition. He told me this is an internal issue some in the family are disciplined and some are not – it just depends!

  • Dan

    Fossilmedic,

    This is an interesting blog or article on this issue which seems to be entering a new phase but still not necessarily a mature phase.

    I have never been a “two-hatter” but have spent nearly my entire volunteer and paid-on-call fire service career in the combination departments – large (same place as you in PG) and a small (current town I live in) and it is really disappointing to see this issue surface selectively where the IAFF locals choose to utilize the bylaw.

    I believe it becomes more polarizing and divisive because of how it is “selectively” applied or enforced by various affiliates. I don’t quite get the “it’s a labor thing” in your article and the african american analogy may not be the best example of the point you are trying to get accross.

    I think the metro Chicago union president in the previous post seems to effectively explain the key reason and rational for the bylaw and a particular affiliates decision to use or invoke it on it’s membership. This is something any reasonable individual with a “pro or con position” can understand and respect. We may not agree but we can respect the position or statement.

    Why can’t the IAFF and it’s affiliates just stop using other “reasons” for why the bylaw is in place and enforced? There are affiliates who won’t enforce it or take it away where they have members who want the opportunity to volunteer or make extra money in part time positions because there is no political reason beacuse of where the leadership or the majority of thier members stand on this issue.

    However, another affiliate or group of affiliates will allow a local or group of locals to use it as leverage to gain or maintain staffing or deal with a trend or problem they do not or cannot adress head on and uses various outlets to publicize it which causes negative press, strife and helps feed the blogs.

    This issue has a huge downside for the american fire service because it is a “cancer” to operating & sustaining a healthy combination fire rescue service. Many cities and towns will need this combination service model to provide reasonable and effective staffing, probably more neccessary in the next 3-5 years and likely much longer due to the fiscal challenges in every corner of the country.

    I like the perspective a fellow FF provided to me who is an IAFF member and cardholder and a “two-hatter” by definition. He told me this is an internal issue some in the family are disciplined and some are not – it just depends!