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Nursing Is A Profession, Firefighting Is A Hobby and Paramedics Are Caught In The Middle
Comments OffHe was a thirty-something probationary firefighter and I asked what his first career was. Turns out it was firefighting.
Meanwhile, his wife had no problem obtaining immediate employment as a registered nurse at a hospital. It is this staggering lack of career mobility that leads me to label firefighting as a hobby.
The speaker started as a registered nurse from a diploma school in Los Angeles. Hospitals and health departments ran vocational registered nurse training thirty years ago.
He also became a National Registry EMT-Paramedic. Because his ambulance agency worked in both Ventura and Los Angeles counties, he had to maintain paramedic certification from both counties. Two different and mandatory continuing education programs.
Moving to another state, he had no problem with his registered nursing credentials, but needed to take a "paramedic refresher course" and sit for a state paramedic exam, even though he already held a national registry EMT-P certification.
Nursing, firefighting and ems have moved forward since the 1960s, but with significantly different outcomes.
Regardless of how you earned your registered nursing credentials, RNs are able to move throughout the country without needing to re-qualify because of a geographic change. The same is true for most professions.
Since the 1966 Wingspread conference, the fire service has talked a lot about professionalizing the career.
Some notable accomplishments are the:
Unfortunately, entry to fire department employment remains restricted to the bottom and top of the organization chart.
It is telling that both of the Harvard University three-week summer programs provide no academic credit, either for fire chiefs or union leaders.
The $11,000 programs provide an intense and valuable experience for the attendees, taught by Harvard University faculty. The university has not provided a mechanism to award academic credit for these programs.
EMS started as a Department of Transportation vocational training program thirty years ago. By
20092013 it will reflect the nursing model, moving into the scope of practice model.(information about the 2007-2009 stakeholder process removed)
The EMS Scope of Practice provides an opportunity for 50,000 practicing paramedics to have the same professional mobility enjoyed by 2.7 million registered nurses. A pity is that the fire service is farther along the professional path, yet may never provide the same type of professional mobility to the 350,000 people who make firefighting their career.
Mike "FossilMedic" Ward
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